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Thursday, August 10, 2006

Bush administration seeks immunity from being charged with war crimes

It's a good thing Bush & Co. have Sore Loserman and the foiled British al Qaeda bomb plot to distract us, or we might notice the latest bulls**t they're trying to sneak in under our radar: amendments to the War Crimes Act that would retroactively protect Bush & Co. from criminal charges for authorizing humiliating and degrading treatment of prisoners.

The White House says the bill will apply to "any conduct by any U.S. personnel, whether committed BEFORE or AFTER the law is enacted" (emphasis ours).

That's right: If Congress rubber stamps the amendments, Bush and his neoconvicts would be completely immune from prosecution for war crimes.

The silver lining: By virtue of drafting such an amendment, Bush & Co. are admitting that they have, in fact, committed war crimes.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming..."NED LAMONT IS SOFT ON TERROR!" "GO, HOMELAND SECURITY!"

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-warcrimes
10aug10,1,4466016.story?coll=la-news-a_section&ctrack=1&cset=true

18 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you for bringing this to people's attention. This is exactly the administration's long time M. O. Always release big news, raise an alert, etc. just when they are also doing something underhanded, or unpleasant. Another reason to confirm the press'complicity in the goings-on of our government

3:01 PM  
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3:45 PM  
Blogger mediamonarchy said...

exactly! this is staged theater, folks. we must expose these thugs NOW! call or email your friends & family... even if some of them will think you're crazy. time is running out!

3:54 PM  
Blogger Ms. Lori said...

How effing MADDENING!

How horrifyingly evil.

Sweet, sweet November, how you taunt us with your distance...

6:26 AM  
Blogger exigent said...

I didnt believe for a second that there was some radical foiled terror plot. Something just seemed fishy about it...maybe that it was too grandiose. But this all makes sense. Distractions, fear, and misdirection is how we shall be led.

Great find.

9:25 AM  
Blogger Editor at Large said...

Anonymous: Yes, the press is as much to blame as the Bushies. They pretty much report what they're told to report. Every now and then, though, a real journalist with integrity slips through the cracks and tells us what's really going on. We need more of those real journalists.

Ahmedinajad: Huh?

mediamonarchy: Staged theatre, indeed - like almost everything Bush & Co. have done.

Ms. Lori: November won't come soon enough, will it?

exigent: All the more reason to lead ourselves.

10:14 AM  
Blogger chris farrell said...

Why are you people convinced there was no terror plot? You really don't know, and I really don't think the British would make this whole thing up. Obviously the bombings last year in London were real enough.
You are pretty good at hating Bush, but that is not a policy.

11:34 AM  
Blogger Editor at Large said...

Chris: We don't know for sure that there was no terror plot, but you don't know for sure that there was one, either. Can you blame us for being a little suspicious, considering how many times Bush and Blair have cried wolf?

We never suggested that hating Bush is a policy. We just hate him.

4:52 PM  
Anonymous Jeff said...

So Editor, would you rather see an actual attack and thousands killed before you believe there was a terror plot? Do you really believe the government would raise the security threat, for no reason? Get a life!!

Hate is the root of the problems in this world, you should grow up!

8:00 AM  
Blogger Editor at Large said...

Jeff: Again, we're not saying there wasn't an actual terror plot - just that Bush and Blair's history of lies and false alarms have given us reason to doubt. You're welcome to believe everything they say (or the media reports), but if you do, we think it's you who should get a life and grow up.

10:04 PM  
Anonymous Jeff said...

Please give your readers examples of terrorism false alarms.

6:28 AM  
Blogger exigent said...

heres a couple:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/07/newyork.subways/index.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,145407,00.html

But thats not the point of this blog. What is being addressed is the coincedence of this big news opportunity of an alleged terror plot (that can or cant be proved, that is irrelevant) while in the backgroung, the white house is pushing to make amendments to the War Crimes Act. How would it look if the changing of the War Crimes Act was front page news while there was nothing else to report?

What can even the stupidest American deduce about the administration trying to do this? The majority of Bush's supporters (I call them Front Page Conservatives, cuz it seems they only read the front page of the newspaper) follow him so dearly because they do NOT question his M.O. or anything that comes out of his mouth. Why is it such a sin to realize the facts are leading in a different direction than our white house? Are you afraid of being a flip-flopper? Actually it takes a smart man to realize his mistakes, learn from them and compensate so as not to repeat them.

It's not about getting a life, it's about reading the whole newspaper and coming up with your own opinion. If a story on page D8 doesn't feel right bwecause it conflicts with something that FoxNews has told you, then look into it. I never read whats on the front page (I consider those to be the curveball that is thrown at us, and go straight to the black and white.

Bush has lied and committed war crimes. That much is true. Now he is trying to make him immune from prosecution for the war crimes by changing the law itself. And that is ok with you?

9:36 AM  
Blogger Editor at Large said...

Jeff: We apologize for saying we think you should get a life and grow up. We're quite certain that you have a life and you are grown up. We just didn't appreciate being accused of lacking a life or maturity ourselves, so we retaliated - which, of course, is immature. As is hatred. We don't literally hate George Bush, the person - we just strongly oppose everything we believe he represents, which includes greed, arrogance, ignorance, bigotry, nationalism, imperialism, lawlessness, racism, sexism, callousness, recklessness, and violence. Obviously, it's quicker and simpler just to say we hate him. But we'll try not to be so lazy from now on.

Exigent: Thanks for providing those examples of false alarms. Another big one: the alleged existence of WMDs in Iraq. And of course, the implied connection of Saddam Hussein with 9/11, al Qaeda, and terrorism in general.

Your points about where to find the real news are worth repeating. You have to dig deeper than the front page to find what the government and their pals, the corporate publishers, are hoping you will miss. You also have to read more than one newspaper, or watch more than one TV channel, to get a more complete picture of what's really happening. You also have to engage your heart, your soul, and your intuition - not just your brain - when reading or watching the news. Read between the lines and try to see what's being left out...feel what's not being said. Just because you read a newspaper or watch the news on TV doesn't make you well informed; to be really well informed, you have to be fully conscious and acutely, painfully aware - in other words, you have to be willing to feel something deep and sometimes dark. That's our philosophy, anyway; it may seem pessimistic or cynical, but it's the only way we've found to avoid being manipulated.

10:36 AM  
Anonymous Jeff said...

How were the false alarm examples listed Bush's fault? The FBI received a tip and acted accordingly. Our government must act in the best interest of public safety, they would be negligent if they did not.

WMD's and Iraq OMG! The only person that lied is Saddam. The next battle is IRAN, but I am sure this blog group is against any action there as well.

2:38 PM  
Blogger exigent said...

They are his fault because he is in charge. Everything is his responsibility. Everything reflects back to the president. Why wouldnt our leader be accountable for passing wrongful information to us? He said that our last course of action will be to invade Iraq, at the first (unconfirmed) report that Iraq has WMD and has ties to Al Qaeda he jumped on it. Now we as a country look the fool. Our government was negligent that it did not confirm the validity of the rumor before we declared war. Our government is negligent because of that AND it wont fess up to it.

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/07/22_lies.html

here is a list of lies about Iraq, but I'm sure you've seen these types of pages before...

Anyway...if we go to war with Iran, not only will it be a mistake, it will once again be Bush's fault because the Arab world is so pissed at him/us right now.

$315b spent on the the war on terror so far and the world is not a better place. Do you actually think that we can win the war on terror? For every terrorist we kill that action causes sympathy and 2 more pop up. Will will never hunt down all the terrorists...the more you fight it the more they will resist. That much is human nature. We kill their leaders, and new ones pop up. Oh and why is Osama Bin Laden still alive, btw?

Do you have any idea how much money $315b is? http://www.crunchweb.net/87billion this website explains it all. If you had $315b in one dollar bills and stack them...

"This pile is 125 feet wide, 200 feet deep, and 450 feet tall.

450 feet is the height of a 38-story building. It's the hieght of the Millenium Wheel in London. It is also the height of the Luxor Hotel in Las Vegas and the Louisiana State Capitol Building.

If you were to stack the money in a single stack, your stack would be 19,887 miles tall, enough to wrap the Moon at its equator almost 3 times. "

10:34 AM  
Anonymous Jeff said...

OK. America, according to exigent, should do nothing to fight terrorism and the dictatorships of the world, because it costs too much and we will never win. OK, yea, that is a great idea!! Then when IRAN nukes someone, let me guess, that will be Bush's fault as well.

4:07 PM  
Blogger Editor at Large said...

Jeff: Actually, yes, it WOULD cost too much and be a losing proposition to try to fight all the terrorists and dictators in the world. And we can't even afford to think about doing that, anyway, because we're busy in Iraq spending money we don't have and creating terrorists who didn't exist before!

And yes, as a matter of fact, if Iran nukes someone, it will most likely be a result of Bush's disastrous Mideast policies and his complete and utter ignorance of international relations.

6:33 PM  
Blogger exigent said...

Great rebuttal, Jeff. Where do I begin?

We've learned that throwing money at a problem doesnt necessarily solve it, correct? Do you think that with a fraction of the money spent we could do more or less with effective intelligence gathering and smart actions by special forces? Strike only when necessary, that is at times when it will only hurt their confidence and they cant use our actions against us.

It is SOOO easy to hate us right now,
We are occupying a country, any occupiying force can easily look like the bad guys.
We use brute force and dont respect their religion and customs.
We torture and humiliate (the latter part will soon NOT be a war crime)our prisoners.
Innocent Muslim women, men, and children have died.
They are brainwashed from the beginning. They dont have the same k-9 education system that we have.

So take your pick. We will never win the war on terror, it's like chinese handcuffs, you cant get your fingers out by simply pulling really hard. That has been our plan of action so far. As long as we are in Iraq, it will only ger worse and worse.

If we want to win the war on terror, we will never win by using bullets and bombs. We gotta stop giving them reasons to hate us. How is one way to put out a fire? Take away oxygen. We arent doing that, we just keep adding logs to it. When you are fighting a fire you do not add fuel to it, so why do you say that we are fighting terrorism?

9:00 AM  

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